It’s time for my favorite episode of Season 5, which means the illustrious Dan Budnik of Eventually Supertrain fame is back to talk criminal couples with me for the episodes “I’m a Family Crook -Don’t Shoot!” and “The Child Stealers”.

I’m pleased to report that this time I didn’t have to do any heavy editing. You will get all of our thoughts on both episodes as well as bonus thoughts on child stealing, con artistry, and Cohen Brothers movies. Does that make for an extra long episode? Absolutely! But every single second is magical. You won’t be disappointed.

And if you are, I don’t want to hear about it.

Listen on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.

Spoiler Warning! Dan and I talk episode endings from about 51:39 to 1:08:18 and 1:48:22 to 1:58:48.

Please enjoy the Lovejoys and Nina and Gar. Yes, his name is Gar. Dan and I discuss that at length.